It is not my responsibility to prove I'm not a harasser, it is Nacin and the WordPress Leader's responsibility to prove it. If not, then it is defamation, which could be subject to civil liabilities. Given that the WordPress leaders have a lot of influence, it would then be in my best interest to bring it to a civil trial. If they can prove that I am in fact a harasser in either criminal or civil court, then I need to reassess and evaluate my actions more.
All Of My Tweets Before Nacin PM
All tweets are in chronological order, further explanations are at the end.
Which ones of the above tweets were harassing?
I can say that the during the discourse, Scott Taylor (@wondermusicboy) sent me many abusive and harassing tweets. All of which he deleted after I told Nacin about them. So what will happen to Scott. Nothing. Nothing will happen to Scott. He simply deleted all of the offending tweets, so no one will believe anything else. I have some emails, but twitter doesn't email you if you reply on the web site.
The only two tweets I have archived from the emails I got. The other ones were much, much worse.
So Scott gets to keep the narrative that I'm a harasser and that he is a great, honorable person that doesn't harass or bully people. Nacin also, I suppose will defend Scott, because they are friends. Nacin and I are not friends. Nacin and I are enemies. Scott and I are also enemies. You don't destroy your friends over your enemies.
I guess if there is something you can learn from all of this is that if you are a leader in a community and wish to engage in bullying and harassment, you just have to say your piece and then remove the evidence. This allows you to get your narrative out to the community and then remove evidence that may come back to haunt you.
Why This Post?
The problem with the WordPress leaders coming after you and having the power to define the narrative is that members of the community can now use that to abuse you.
Again, the original tweet was deleted. But the conversation is still there. I didn't want to actually have to do this, but it does go into my thesis that WordPress leaders set the narrative without evidence and you are what they say you are. I am a harasser, even when there is no evidence offered.
If there is evidence to suggest I harassed anyone, then come out with it. Simply saying a person is a harasser is a terrible thing because the precedent is that Person A can accuse Person B and it is up to Leader C to decide if Person B is guilty. What is the standard, if not to use evidence?
The WordPress leaders and leaders in other parts of the WordPress community want to say, well Person A says Person B is a harasser, therefore Person B is an harasser and what to do about it. The worst case is that members of the WordPress community want to remove and prevent Person B from ever doing what they do. They want to crush Person B on the word of Person A. Anyone that supports Person B is just as guilty as Person A and also subject to the same penalty.
So to @norcross, I may never speak or possibly even be a part of his WordCamps. It is possible that he may go to other WordCamp organizers and tell them that I may not be part of their conferences. He may do this, even when I have been to a few other WordCamps and there is no evidence I ever harassed anyone or caused any problem.
In truth, if someone came forward after the fact and said, that I did in fact harass them or worse, he would use that. My prediction is that he would use this accusation without asking for evidence of use that to say, "See, I told you this person is terrible. He did Action X to Person A" and do so against my argument of where is the evidence.
If you look at this, the attempt by some in the community to label me a racist. Now, whether I am a racist is not something I can speak about. It is my attempt to treat people equally and as I am human, I will fail from time to time. It is the assessment to be consistent that I speak to this.
The tweet was taken out of context. The tweet is above and you may also read it in context. What I was saying in the 4 or 5 tweets is that the idea that anyone should be treated differently based on any characteristics that they can't control is dumb as fuck. The context of the tweets is that you should treat everyone equally regardless of how you feel about them.
It is my crusade for equality that I have criticized Nacin, Helen, Aaron and Scott, because I believe they don't care about equally. I believe that they want to have one standard for men and another standard for women. The very definition of prejudice, because it allows you to treat one group differently and gives you justifications for treating one group differently. You don't see anything wrong with treating anyone differently.
To Nacin and Scott, I am a harasser, because I dared to criticize a woman. To them, you can't criticize a woman and anyone that does is a sexist and a misogynist. To them, the very fact that I talk to a woman is harassment. It can't be anything other than harassment, because they believe I am sexist and any views they have of me is validated based on the criticism of a person they know and are friends with.
To them, the only good Jacob Santos, is a dead Jacob Santos or at least one they don't ever have to see or hear. That is the extent of bullying and destruction they would be willing to unleash upon me, based on my criticisms of WordPress and its core team. The problem with what they desire is that I might never know they are in a group, but if they are around and see me, then they will have a problem. They could seek to have me removed from communities they don't have any direct control over.
Nacin has said the above, but he has his own standards and definitions I would assume given that from the actual recognized definitions, that what I was doing was not harassment.
Nacin History With Me
Nacin tendency to not give a fuck about evidence and facts is that he can feel justified engaging in behavior unbecoming of a leader. He is the arbiter of what is good, therefore if he disagrees with a thing, it is bad. This sort of mindset is completely bat-shit insane, because you could get rolled up into his crusade against "toxic" people.
To Nacin, a "toxic" person is anyone he disagrees with and anyone that may disagree with something he agrees with. It doesn't even need to concern him directly. He will jump in and lay down "The Hammer" on you and tell you to stop.
It is unknown how many people he might have done this to. The first time he did it to me, it was when I was criticizing Jane Mylo's post on the WordPress dev community. It shocked me to the point where I wrote on WP Hackers mailing list. I believe at this point that much like Scott Taylor, Nacin jumped in to "remove the harasser". It was at the point when Nacin threaten to black mail me that I realized that with that level of engagement of WordPress leaders, that it wasn't worth being in the community.
Nothing happened to Nacin, because he was doing it against a "Harasser", and even if his actions were technically illegal. Just like nothing will happen to Scott.
The post by Jane had nothing to do with Nacin and the responses by Nacin only served to strawman the original criticisms.
It is the reason Nacin doesn't like evidence. It is too difficult to justify your behavior, if you actually have to prove your point is valid. Nacin appears to believe his opinion is truth based simply that he is a leader in the community. Questioning him and asking for evidence is sea lioning. Which must be a term he loves, because he uses it to support his claim that he doesn't have to do shit to support his opinion.
The WP Hackers thread was used as evidence to ban me from the IRC. I haven't been on WordPress Slack, but it wouldn't surprise me if I was also banned. That is the level of no fucks given. Nacin thinks that if you have a disagreement with a person on Service A that you will go to Service B and again, since he doesn't need evidence to support his claim, he will assume that you will do so.
As I have never done so and there is no evidence I have ever done so, the banning on IRC and possibly Slack, if it was done, would be out of line. He or others will justify the action by accusing me of harassment and saying that they were required to ban me to prevent me from furthering my "attack" on another platform and further "harassing" the person or people in question.
Nacin Talking At Me
I wrestled with this, because I believe private messages are written in confidence and therefore are not open to releasing without permission with the other party. Technically, there are copyright issues, but I'm not sure what the conclusion was on that.
But fuck it. This is to show the lengths Nacin will go and it was really, really offensive. Really, really humiliating. It shows exactly the character of Nacin, and where he will go to justify his actions.
Of course, no evidence is given to support this claim. No evidence to support that I ever harassed any member of the WordPress community online. If I did so on Twitter, then let that person come forth and show the tweets.
Oh, but I have criticized the WordPress lead developer and committers. I have questioned some of their intelligence in their actions. Was this a prolonged campaign like harassment is defined? No. I am sure you could much more aggressive general tweets towards the core team as I call them or lead developers and committers as Nacin would define them. If you use that standard against me, then you must also use it for the core committers and lead developers. Doing so and my tweets are either on par or no where near as bad as the other group.
By Nacin own standard, he is harassing WP Tavern. Should he send private messages to himself saying that he should stop harassing WP Tavern?
He is the big man of WordPress. The one that gets to lay down the law. He hears something bad and without context and without evidence and decide that the other person is guilty. Even if it comes out that I'm innocent and that he overreacted, he will still use this as a mark against me.
To him, he would have always been justified to send me these private messages. Even if, after the fact, he discovers he over reacted, well, I'm an asshole, so fuck me right?
This is the straw man. He thinks I'm playing. He thinks I am trolling. He thinks that since he believes I'm harassing people that I'm doing it over some averse pleasure of seeing people uncomfortable or worst.
He doesn't give a fuck about gaining clarification. He is not an impartial party, since I was technically criticizing him too.
He has to establish a reason to lay down the law, so to speak. That excuse is that I'm making people uncomfortable. Who? What context? The kicker and the one that is supposed to make me afraid is, "Unsafe".
You have to be careful about "unsafe" because that could have criminal or civil consequences. If people feel I was making them unsafe, then I could have a civil lawsuit. If I was threatening people, then I could have a criminal trial.
It is an attempt to not only get me to stop, but to make me afraid to stand up for myself. Nacin actions could only be defined as "Toxic". Nacin himself is toxic. By Nacin's own standards, he should not be part of the WordPress community. How many people have left WordPress because of Nacin's harassment and bullying. At least one, but fuck me remember?
Okay, good. This is why I believe Nacin is a nice person or at least he believes he is a nice person. He is doing this in private to "save" me and inform me of what is happening to mediate a solution. Of course, he doesn't want to mediate, he just wants to tell me to go away or the punishment will be much worse.
He is going to bring the hammer and bring it down on me personally. If you upset Nacin enough, this is how he will treat you. You are no longer worthy of a conversation. You are only worthy of being "Talked at". He will give you that much. Then you will be ignored or you will be banned.
It is nice to know that my offense was so great that you have to jump in and put me in my place.
You may think that this is his attempt at being nice. It isn't. He is attempting to defuse an angry person and gain some trust with the other. You pick something that you can both agree on, which lowers the inhibition of that person. It allows you to step in and say, "Well, I know we have our differences, but you remember our time in Columbia? Good times."
The second part is to establish that he knows that I have communication problems. I have described them during the interview for the WordPress history book.
To him, I'm in the wrong. I was in the wrong with the first tweet I sent to Jeff. I will always be in the wrong. There is no doubt, nor could there be any doubt that I was anything but in the wrong. He wouldn't even consider it a possibility.
That is offensive. That is prejudice. That is bigotry. You want to know how racists and sexists are. They are like this. That feeling of condescension is what sexists and racists use when they want to be "nice". It is the same prejudice reasoning that, "Oh, I want to be nice to this unfortunate soul."
We are back again to the straw man.
I did say I was an asshole. I didn't believe for a second that he was wanting to resolve this by having a discussion. So I choose to not go after his strawman. If his attempt at resolving a critic of his actions and actions of his friends is by threatening that person, then he shouldn't be part of WordPress.
I have said it before and I will say it now. If this is how he treats his enemy, then my suggestion is to never get on his bad side. This is his bad side. This is how he will treat you if you ever oppose him. If you ever criticize his friends and the project he leads.
You want to know why WPTavern will never fully get into the shit that happens on Trac, Slack or the core dev community. It is because Nacin will drop the fucking hammer and Jeff and his partner will be fucked.
Where the comment about my communication problems was the carrot, this is the stick. When he says the "community" he is referring to himself and his friends and those whom he has influence. They will take his words as gospel and I'd be fucked.
If he so chooses, he could take a few tweets out of context and send them to prosecutor and I'd be royally fucked. It will then be my job to defend my tweets to a judge who won't give a fuck and a jury who might be instructed to not take them into context. So it will be up to chance as to whether I will either have my ass turned out every night in a prison or jail cell or be royally "inconvenienced" by the trial.
Or he might be speaking of having me banned from twitter or Slack or any part of WordPress community and its tools. A harsh sentence for the tweets above. Holy fuck. Nacin doesn't play around does he?
To me, the conversation above is the only context. It is the only reason he is sending the tweets. To him, he is probably taking everything in over the past 5 or 6 years. He feels he is justified in his actions, therefore he feels he is.
Again, he wishes to play into the narrative that my tweets above were harassment and abusive. Abusive? Evidence.
A claim made without evidence can be rejected without evidence. If you are going to eject someone from a public community which you do not own, then you need to establish evidence of harassment.
Well, his claim of abuse could have some merit. I have tweets that Nacin interpreted as abusive. That is the thing really. If someone called me any of the things I called someone in my tweets, I wouldn't give a fuck. I would be like fuck you too buddy and we'd have a beer or shoot the shit. To me, it is how I converse with people day to day. To say that is abuse is not really understanding the friendly tone I was attempting to make the "abusive" tweets.
Out of context, some of Nacin's own tweets could also be considered abusive. In context, he is conversing with friends. Of course, none of the person I have conversed with are my friends, so the familiarity may have caused the confusion.
My point is that, if that is what Nacin considers abuse, then I must say, he has had a good life. If he spent a day in one of the shoes of someone not as privileged, then he wouldn't give a fuck. I believe he does, because he has never been in a situation where words weren't the biggest problem you have.
Until you walk in a person's shoes where words mean nothing, I don't think you understand why words mean nothing. Words don't leave scars, you don't have to fear words, you don't have to worry about words coming home. Words are nothing compared to other more important shit. Words can hurt, but no where near the level or to the extent of other actions.
Make of this what you will. Again, my focus is on the tweets referenced in this post. His mindset might be different.
Criticism is often unwanted. I don't want it, but I at least accept it and acknowledge points that others make. Again, no proof of harassment.
Again, you may see down below that he might be talking about something different. He didn't establish that he might have been talking about the full history. I was thinking he was talking about the tweets referenced in this post and thinking he was insane to think that any of it was harassing.
Again, make of this what you will.
Another straw man. You will find that Nacin enjoys strawmans. They are like candy during Halloween, he hands them out to as many people as possible.
Even so, to address the straw man, many of my other tweets that he describes as violent and intense are jokes. If you don't find them funny, and most people don't, then Fuuuuuuucccccckkk you. :)
Obviously, Poe's Law seems to apply here. To me, I see the same tweets as an attempt as humor. He is probably thinking I'm being serous and some of the tweets taken out of context will be off to a person with a stick up their ass.
Fun fact: All crazy people are ax murders. Nacin said so, therefore it is true.
This offended me in several different ways. The first was that Nacin believes I am crazy and implies that crazy people are violent. The second is that anyone that knows me would fucking laugh at his face for implying that they should be concerned for their safety.
I am not sure if Nacin actually believes all crazy people are violent or just if I might be a violent person. The best way to know if someone is a violent crazy person is to check their history. Do they have a history of violence? If no, then most likely they aren't a violent person.
Do I have a history of violence? No. That can't be right, Nacin implied that I'm violent, therefore, if you are a Nacin fan, it must be true.
I am also curious as to who told him this? Was it one of the trolls that were in some of the threads? Or did someone go through my history of tweets and in their minds determine, from fucking tweets no less, that I must be a violent person?
Sometimes, that crazy person is a Elliot Rodger and sometimes that crazy person is a nobody, because they harmed no one. To say that all crazy people are Elliot Rodger types is prejudice and a terrible thing to say. I choose to think this is how he was applying it, until and unless Nacin clarifies.
Strawman. Why should I care about how other people, I don't even know and aren't referenced care about me? I will probably never meet these people. Even if I did, the interaction would be polite and both parties would leave none the worse for wear. Unless the other party wanted to start shit, then I would call the cops and record it, so that I have proof if the other party wants to say I started it.
I also don't give a fuck about people not laughing at my jokes. I get told often that they are terrible. I can only get better with practice. Eventually, they might allow a chuckle or three. I already know my jokes are shit, but I find them funny at least, so I'm going to post them. If some other person finds humor, then there would be two of us at least. That is good enough for me.
You or other people, don't get to decide whether a joke is funny for everyone. That has to be decided on an individual basis. If you are offended by a joke, that is on you and you have to deal with it elsewhere.
Again. He is right, he didn't want a discussion. He just wanted to tell me how it is going to be. However, he doesn't own the WordPress community, he doesn't own the members. If an individual wants to converse with me, he has no power to tell that person they can do otherwise.
He is not just telling me to sit and shut the fuck up, he is telling others in the community to not converse with me either. If they do, then I need to just ignore it. Nacin believes that he is trying to protect the community from what he believes is a harasser. He believes that anyone I talk to, I'm going to harass.
He has no proof I have ever harassed anyone at conferences, in real life or on Twitter.
Again, if he is going to apply the harassment standard to me, then he must too apply it to Scott. I was also attempting to point out and again less subtly below that my interactions were primarily a result of people interacting with me.
No apology. No, maybe I could be wrong. Just, "Hey, since you are shit lord, people shouldn't talk to you." It does explain why many of the tweets directed at me appear to be gone. Which is great. Nacin might have some decency, but he is still wrong in that it was never my fault or my problem when he brought it to be in the first place.
His response should have been to tell Scott Taylor to stop and object to anyone that were being abusive to me. The funny part out of all of this was that hear he is fucking telling me that I'm harassing and being abusive and people in his group are being abusive and harassing me. Do I know most of these fucking people? No. They choose to start shit and his response to my attempting to defend myself is to bring down the fucking hammer on me alone?
I am not sure how to take that.
Fucking right. Except I really mean Nacin and his friends, if you want to get specific.
He means the one where I was replying to Jeff on finding a better feminist web site rather than Geek Feminism.
If Jeff doesn't want me to talk to him, he can simply block me. I don't believe I have ever said anything directed at Jeff. Since I'm persona non grata with WordPress leaders, it is in his best interest to distance himself from me at all possible costs. His job could be at sake and he is attempting to not get in the bad graces of the WordPress leaders.
That was the point of the last post and the problem with the community. I was pointing out that the WordPress leaders could, if they don't like you, destroy you, if you depend on the WordPress for your income. I'm not doing this to defend Jeff. Anyone, if they so choose, can defend themselves. Jeff and I are not friends. I would like to think that we are neutral, but I have no idea.
I'm not sure how to take this. Again he wants to strawman. I'm not sure how to take the discussion about WordCamp. I took it to be a threat that he would seek to block me from ever going to WordCamps in the future. Right, he might be referencing "You make me sound like I could actually do something." that I left out, because I didn't think it was relevant. He thinks I would attack people at a WordCamp.
It is this fear I think is entirely the reason I criticize the WordPress leaders. Nacin will try and could without any proof and disregarding any of my conduct from past WordCamps have me banned or anyone else banned from WordCamps. It is the very thing I feared, except I feared would be done to someone else.
Nacin believes he is doing it for a good cause. That is the entire problem. Without evidence without even the demand of evidence of proof. Just saying, "I don't like this person, he is a harasser. Ban him or her." And that goes through? That person is fucked, because there is no one you can go to. You are fucked. Completely and totally. This affects everyone, because a person can accuse another person and bam! All of a sudden that person is fucked.
There is nothing that person would ever be able to do either. Except apologize over and over and over and over again and even then their reputation is done. They are fucked, because a person said they did something and a leader believed them without any proof. Anyone asking for proof is called out and could also face the same punishment.
Again with the narrative that I'm violent because I'm crazy. As if all crazy people are violent. If I was violent, I would have a history of it. Not only that, but I have to feel threatened and people have to feel guilty being around me because certain higher ups don't want to hang around with me.
If you think this could only happen to a person like me, then you know nothing. I feel sorry for you, because you will play along and beat down some other person. When it is your turn, you will know. It is entirely the reason evidence is sacred to the discussion, because you need to not accept mob mentality that someone is a piece of shit, you need to have proof a person is a piece of shit and the other side when there are two parties involved.
I skipped a few quotes. This is the final piece I want to use. I do think Nacin understands my mentality somewhat, whether from past tweets or something else. The usage of humans is something that I would use. I skipped over it, because usually people or persons is similar to humans. I guess biologists would be considered in the same group as possible serial killers.
He described my behavior as "serial killer", except profiling usually happens after. You could profile a person and say for example that a person could be a serial killer based on these characteristics that match other serial killers. The problem is that there is a difference between a person who matches those characteristics that murders people and those that don't. The hint is that one took an action and the others never did.
To judge people based on characteristics is again, prejudice. The irony is that I try very hard to treat people equally and how I would like to be treated. Nacin does not. He is okay with prejudice and bigotry because he has no idea that is what it is. Nor does he allow for anyone to tell him that he could even be that way. A bigot doesn't give a fuck. You can't change a bigot, unless you are part of the same group and point it out.
Again. It is an issue because Nacin and his friends have made it an issue. Do I believe that they believe I'm "physically threatening". Yes. That is because they don't know me and think the worst of anyone that isn't their friends. They will think the same of anyone.